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many have voiced concerns about his stance on the iraq war and israel. >> israel must negotiate with hamas a terrorist group against israel... >> reporter: even with some on six from both parties, hagel could win senate approval and what lawmakers are saying about a confirmation hearing when i see you next. carla campbell ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> a shooting killed 6 people and severally injured former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. [ music ] >> an enter faith prayer service was held for many including ron barber. the memorial foundation is being started in member runs of that -- rememberance of that tragedy. >>> the deadly shooting in aurora, which happened during that deadly movie theater massacre, that story is coming up at 6:45. in just a few hours, they will go to the lawmakers for new state regulations for ammunition sales. nancy skinner has written regulations to create stricter standards for ammunition sales. it will require them and will report all sales to the state department of justice. >>> the cable channel has been sold to al jazeer and he said he had a wonder
many have voiced concerns about his stance on the iraq war and israel. >> israel must negotiate with hamas a terrorist group against israel... >> reporter: even with some on six from both parties, hagel could win senate approval and what lawmakers are saying about a confirmation hearing when i see you next. carla campbell ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> a shooting killed 6 people and severally injured former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. [ music ] >> an enter...
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. >>> several republican lawmakers have considered hagel's stand on israel and hamas. >> chuck hagel if confirmed for secretary he of defense would be the most antagonistic for the state of israel in history. >> he served incredibly in vietnam, served this country as the united states senator and he has not had a chance to speak for himself. >> hagel can vote and is aimed at some sanctions and he is replacing leon panetta who is stepping down. >>> secretary clinton was released and a was admitted when they followed up on a concussion she suffered in december. she will participate in events for ahmed wali karzai visit on friday. >>> lots of people as we talked about earlier are heading back, let's check in with sal on traffic, good morning sal. >>> good morning, pam, and brian and it looks good so far. we are going to be much whatting a lot later and let move on you can see the golden gate bridge is going well and just be careful as you drive to the toll plaza and they will be going across the bridge in the next half hour. also looking at the bay bridge toll plaza which is light and n
. >>> several republican lawmakers have considered hagel's stand on israel and hamas. >> chuck hagel if confirmed for secretary he of defense would be the most antagonistic for the state of israel in history. >> he served incredibly in vietnam, served this country as the united states senator and he has not had a chance to speak for himself. >> hagel can vote and is aimed at some sanctions and he is replacing leon panetta who is stepping down. >>> secretary...
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and then some republicans and democrats don't think he will offer enough support to israel. mitch mcconnell has -- has not said if he sports him as secretary of defense. >> do his views make sense for that particular job? i think he ought to be given a fair hearing like any other nominee and he will be. >> reporter: president obama will be speaking in a few hours. we expect to learn more then about his nomination for secretary of defense. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:18. new this morning, interviews with a dozen female soldiers and marines show very little interest in signing up for combat duty. most of the women surveyed said they had no interest on being on the front line fighting. they did think it should be open up to female troops who might want that experience. some women have complained that banning then from combat means they are at a disadvantage when it comes to moving up in the ranks of the military. >>> landfill caumakers get -- california lawmakers get back to work today with a democratic super-authority in the house. does this mean it will be anyth
and then some republicans and democrats don't think he will offer enough support to israel. mitch mcconnell has -- has not said if he sports him as secretary of defense. >> do his views make sense for that particular job? i think he ought to be given a fair hearing like any other nominee and he will be. >> reporter: president obama will be speaking in a few hours. we expect to learn more then about his nomination for secretary of defense. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news....
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this past statements about israel, the cuban embargo and iraq bar have drawn fire. >> mr. hagel came out from the surge. said the war couldn't be won. no one has told us and we were fighting it in 2006. he delayed funding in 2007. >> chuck hagel if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of state against the state of israel in our nation's history. >> hagel's service earned him two purple hearts. >>> president obama today signed into law legislation that set aside $9.7 billion to pay federal flood insurance claims to victims of super storm sandy. fema warned that without the additional funds it would run out of money to pay claims next week. lawmakers have yet to act on a proposed bill to set aside $51 billion worth of aid to address the effects of super storm sandy. john boehner has vowed to vote on that bill january 26. >>> there was a packed house for people that came together to raise money for super storm sandy victims. the money will go to two couples. organizers said they raised more than $2,000 and they're still counting. >>> i
this past statements about israel, the cuban embargo and iraq bar have drawn fire. >> mr. hagel came out from the surge. said the war couldn't be won. no one has told us and we were fighting it in 2006. he delayed funding in 2007. >> chuck hagel if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of state against the state of israel in our nation's history. >> hagel's service earned him two purple hearts. >>> president obama today signed...
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his past statements will israel, the cuban embargo and openly gay imburse ambassador. >> he says the war couldn't be won and we were fighting it in 2006. >> chuck hagel if confirmed tock secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards the state of israel in our nation's history. >> hagel's infantry service in vietnam earned him two purple house. the white house is reportedly ready to defend his nomination. >> california lawmakers will get back to work with a democratic supermajor superit in both houses. >>> the governor said hey, everybody just calm down here and take a deep breath, especially in his own party. we're not just turning it off and rampage the place, okay? so i think what you are going to see is a kind of accommodation and a little caution. >> analysts anticipate that the first big issue will be education, especially college tuition hikes. although the budget will be in better shape, he also says there is always more demands than money available. >>> assembly woman nancy skinner plans to talk about new legislation aimed the regulating amm
his past statements will israel, the cuban embargo and openly gay imburse ambassador. >> he says the war couldn't be won and we were fighting it in 2006. >> chuck hagel if confirmed tock secretary of defense would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards the state of israel in our nation's history. >> hagel's infantry service in vietnam earned him two purple house. the white house is reportedly ready to defend his nomination. >> california lawmakers will get...
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some republicans oppose hagel's nomination and accused him of being anti-israel. >>> new this morning, a ship ran aground and has been floated from the rocks. now teams are trying to determine if the ship is in good enough condition to be towed a way to a protective bay. the ship ran a ground to be carrying the diesel but so far no sign of a spill. >>> media will not be allowed to attend the trial of the five men accused of raping a woman aboard a bus. hundreds tried to get into the courtroom and that includes journalists from all over the world who are following the case. authorities have charged the men with rape and other crimes that could bring the death penalty and they are calling for tougher rape laws in india. >>> they are discovering whether new remains have been found in san joaquin valley county. remains have already been found and they are believed to be from the convicted killer wesley howard shermantine. they were known as the speed freak killer and they have killed at least 20 people in the '80s and '90s. >>> the man is david from san leandro. his car crashed into the c
some republicans oppose hagel's nomination and accused him of being anti-israel. >>> new this morning, a ship ran aground and has been floated from the rocks. now teams are trying to determine if the ship is in good enough condition to be towed a way to a protective bay. the ship ran a ground to be carrying the diesel but so far no sign of a spill. >>> media will not be allowed to attend the trial of the five men accused of raping a woman aboard a bus. hundreds tried to get...
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i support israel. but my first interest is i take an oath of office to the constitution of the united states, not to a president, not to a party, not to israel. in 1988 he called james hormelthen president bill clinton's choice "openly aggressively gay." saying his sexual orientation would be an inhibiting factor. hagel has since apologized for that comment last month saying those remarks were insensitive. but outgoing congressman barney frank blasted him last night in a statement, "i cannot think of any other minority group in the u.s. today where such a negative statement and action made in 1988 would not be an obstacle to a major presidential appointment." t t the two have remained close since. the president has used that alliance as part of his sales pitch for hagel. >> i've served with chuck hagel, i know him. he is a patriot. >> senator jack reid who was also on that 2008 trip is expected to be, to do much of the leg work in the senate to get hagel's nomination over the finish line. he is going t
i support israel. but my first interest is i take an oath of office to the constitution of the united states, not to a president, not to a party, not to israel. in 1988 he called james hormelthen president bill clinton's choice "openly aggressively gay." saying his sexual orientation would be an inhibiting factor. hagel has since apologized for that comment last month saying those remarks were insensitive. but outgoing congressman barney frank blasted him last night in a statement,...
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to israel. speaking hebrew) welcome israel. speaking hebrew) welcome home. for the emigrants who arrive and see this sign, it's often a very emotional experience, an overwhelming often a very emotional experience, an overwhelming one. announcer: tens of thousands of jewish families in the former soviet union are waiting, praying, and hoping for their chance for freedom in the promise land. christians are joining with jews to rescue these persecuted people for several reasons. first is to participate in the modern-day fulfillment of biblical prophecy. second is to show to god's chosen people that christians love them as jesus loved them and are willing to stand with them in their times of tribulation and need with their support and prayers. and third is because god said in genesis 12:3 that he would bless those who bless said in genesis 12:3 that he would bless those who bless the seed of abraham. emotional donor: the only reason that i'm doing anything to help these people-it's not because i fel
to israel. speaking hebrew) welcome israel. speaking hebrew) welcome home. for the emigrants who arrive and see this sign, it's often a very emotional experience, an overwhelming often a very emotional experience, an overwhelming one. announcer: tens of thousands of jewish families in the former soviet union are waiting, praying, and hoping for their chance for freedom in the promise land. christians are joining with jews to rescue these persecuted people for several reasons. first is to...
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our relationship with israel is a special and historic. but it need not and cannot be at the expense of our arab and muslim relationships. so essentially he's saying the united states has many relationships and while the one with israel is special and important we need to remember there are other ones out there and they're important too so my question is do people really disagree with this it is of course important that anyone pick to head up the department of defense be questioned vigorously about past statements and positions when the most controversial aspect of a person when they could potentially threaten his nomination has to do with wanting to put serving the united states above serving israel i think it's worth asking precisely what our relationship with israel is what are the goals and how much longer will voicing concerns about the relationship mean an automatic stain on your record. on to some financial news now bank of america has agreed to pay more than ten billion dollars to mortgage giants fannie mae to settle claims of mort
our relationship with israel is a special and historic. but it need not and cannot be at the expense of our arab and muslim relationships. so essentially he's saying the united states has many relationships and while the one with israel is special and important we need to remember there are other ones out there and they're important too so my question is do people really disagree with this it is of course important that anyone pick to head up the department of defense be questioned vigorously...
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>> with respect to israel, he has repeatedly opposed israel placed all of the blame on israel in dispute after dispute after dispute. he said israel does not reflect the reality of strong u.s. national security interests in maintaining that alliance. >> in a recent interview he sees nothing to disqualify hagel from contention. >> let's get the first degree weather update from maria molina. there's another storm you are watching, where is this thing coming down? >> this is across portions of the southwestern u.s. it is relatively weak but it will get together and start to intensify and produce heavy rains. places in florida aren't looking at much activity. we have a tail end of a frontal system that will continue to fire up showers and isolated thunderstorms here through out the day. keep that in mind otherwise parts of the games plains producing snow and rain. the next storm system across california doesn't look impressive right now just areas of light rain and snow. as we head's actually forecasted for significant rainfall. over four inches of rain will be possible. this is good news. w
>> with respect to israel, he has repeatedly opposed israel placed all of the blame on israel in dispute after dispute after dispute. he said israel does not reflect the reality of strong u.s. national security interests in maintaining that alliance. >> in a recent interview he sees nothing to disqualify hagel from contention. >> let's get the first degree weather update from maria molina. there's another storm you are watching, where is this thing coming down? >> this...
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i believe a pro-israel lobby exists. >> reporter: others insist hague sel not anti-israel. >> he belongs to a tough-minded in this case republican view of israel that, in fact, accepts the reality that while the united states and israel are very close allies and will remain close allies, their views on every issue cannot be expected to coincide. >> reporter: and critics in the gay and lesbian community have turned around their opposition to hagel. in 1998 hagel opposed james hormel, an openly gay man, to an ambassador's post. hagel now says my comments 14 years ago in 1998 were insensitive. they do not reflect my views. i apologize to ambassador hormel and any lgbt americans who may question my commitment to their civil rights. whatever chuck hagel's views were as a senator, if he does become secretary of defense, he will have to fall in line with president obama's policies on everything from defense spending to what to do about iran's nuclear program. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> quiet in steubenville, ohio, today after days of media coverage centering on the alleged rape of a
i believe a pro-israel lobby exists. >> reporter: others insist hague sel not anti-israel. >> he belongs to a tough-minded in this case republican view of israel that, in fact, accepts the reality that while the united states and israel are very close allies and will remain close allies, their views on every issue cannot be expected to coincide. >> reporter: and critics in the gay and lesbian community have turned around their opposition to hagel. in 1998 hagel opposed james...
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but on the other stuff, israel thing, the views on israel, the views on hamas and previous statements i find to be fairly unpalatable but i think republicans feel the same way about obama's, you know, policies so there's no real surprise there and that's why i just don't think as valid as the inquiries are and the confirmation process is rigorous, i just don't think he's going to not be confirmed here. >> right. >> we'll ask the questions and move on. >> right. well to your point of sort of politics of how it went down and barney frank is a great case in point. >> yes. >> when hagel was floated as maybe the nominee, they said they're not comfortable with him and now that he is the nominee, barney frank said, actually, i do support him. >> of course. >> i think it's worth pointing out that the president by having this leak and letting him twist in the wind for a while, the left would have closed ranks and come behind him much more quickly announced as the nominee to start with. >> i think you're right. >> but what's a criticism i'm sympathetic to and voiced myself is a seeming impulse
but on the other stuff, israel thing, the views on israel, the views on hamas and previous statements i find to be fairly unpalatable but i think republicans feel the same way about obama's, you know, policies so there's no real surprise there and that's why i just don't think as valid as the inquiries are and the confirmation process is rigorous, i just don't think he's going to not be confirmed here. >> right. >> we'll ask the questions and move on. >> right. well to your...
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going on to israel, he has a mainstream voting record where he voted to support military aid for israel, for example, the spoke critically about some israeli policies and refuse to do the kind of posturing and preening a lot of people on capitol hill do, signing every letter that aipac puts out. on iran, he had some skepticism about the efficacy of sanctions, which i think is pretty well founded. he also has expressed concern about the potential consequences of a military strike in that we have not talked about that at all in our national discourse. i think that is a pretty well- founded concern, too. and so he has repeatedly been attacked for these things, was called an anti-semite in the weekly standard and other jewish groups. the man themself, let's go first to chuck hagel on iraq after initially supporting the wars, he became a vocal critic in 2007 and joined democrats opposing president bush's troops surge. >> there is no strategy. this is a ping-pong game with american lives. these young men and women that we put in iraq, anbar province, in baghdad, are not beings, their real liv
going on to israel, he has a mainstream voting record where he voted to support military aid for israel, for example, the spoke critically about some israeli policies and refuse to do the kind of posturing and preening a lot of people on capitol hill do, signing every letter that aipac puts out. on iran, he had some skepticism about the efficacy of sanctions, which i think is pretty well founded. he also has expressed concern about the potential consequences of a military strike in that we have...
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hard on israel, soft on iran. and i think that's why you're seeing substantive opposition to chuck hagel. not on the basis of his party or whether he really is a republican anymore or not. it's about the substantive issues where he is really -- it's hard to find anybody in american politics who has a record like chuck hagel which is why it was so surprising the president has picked him. you have to wonder if this signals a change in direction from the president on down. >> when chuck hagel says he supports multilateral sanctions against iran to try to stop it from building a nuclear bomb, he thinks unilateral u.n. sanctions wouldn't make much of a difference because they could skirt around those unilateral sanctions. what's wrong with that kind of advice? >> well, why did he put a hold on sanctions in 2008? if he thought unilateral was wrong, could just oppose it. he put a hold on sanctions at the very end of 2008. not 2001 when he voted against sanctions but 2008 when it was more international. he's also said mil
hard on israel, soft on iran. and i think that's why you're seeing substantive opposition to chuck hagel. not on the basis of his party or whether he really is a republican anymore or not. it's about the substantive issues where he is really -- it's hard to find anybody in american politics who has a record like chuck hagel which is why it was so surprising the president has picked him. you have to wonder if this signals a change in direction from the president on down. >> when chuck...
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and finally, not strong on nuclear weapons with israel. regardless of where you lie, pick your poison, it's a perfect storm for why he should not be secretary of defense. to use an army colloquisim he's a no go. >> he's independent, has wonderful fresh ideas to try to reengage the discussion about the middle east. i've known him before he went -- he was interested before he ran for the senate to learn more from me, grew up in israel and it was an amazing relationship, it started developing in the last 20 years, and i think that i support him wholeheartedly. >>> coming up at the half hour, more on the man president obama is expected to nominate. from serving in vietnam to a career on capitol hill. a look at the life and career of chuck hagel. >>> president obama has more spots to fill in his cabinet, tim geithner is expected to leave sometime around the nomination. there's a vacancy at the cia since general david petraeus stepped down. a source tells cnn a short list includes counter terrorism and homeland security adviser john brennan as w
and finally, not strong on nuclear weapons with israel. regardless of where you lie, pick your poison, it's a perfect storm for why he should not be secretary of defense. to use an army colloquisim he's a no go. >> he's independent, has wonderful fresh ideas to try to reengage the discussion about the middle east. i've known him before he went -- he was interested before he ran for the senate to learn more from me, grew up in israel and it was an amazing relationship, it started...
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military relationship with israel. he's voted time and again to support various authorizations and resolutions. so there's a deep record there of support for a key ally. and so i think in that sense, the israelis should feel reassured. he is within that group of americans who strongly support israel someone on the more skeptical side. one of the things that's gotten him into trouble is expressing resentment that people come up to capitol hill, you know, bearing letters from pro-israel lobbying groups, just expecting senators to sign them. he's been somebody who's said no. i'm not going to automatically sign off on policy. i want to make it myself. and i think that is a lot of senators who feel that they need to be more active in this policy sometimes than they have been. is he an advocate for that. >> so let me ask you, and i just want to confirm. so you're telling me that chuck hagel, if you look at his record, he actually has a record of strong support for israel? >> if you look at all the votes, all of the things he
military relationship with israel. he's voted time and again to support various authorizations and resolutions. so there's a deep record there of support for a key ally. and so i think in that sense, the israelis should feel reassured. he is within that group of americans who strongly support israel someone on the more skeptical side. one of the things that's gotten him into trouble is expressing resentment that people come up to capitol hill, you know, bearing letters from pro-israel lobbying...
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i grew up in israel, was born there. it was an amazing relationship, it started and developed in the last 20 years. and i think that i support him wholeheartedly. >>> coming up at the half hour, more on the man president obama is expected to nominate as his next secretary of defense, from serving in vietnam to a career on capitol hill. a look at the life and career of chuck hagel. >>> president obama has more spots to fill in his cabinet, treasury secretary tim geithner is expected to leave sometime around the nomination. the front-runner to replace geithner is reportedly chief of staff, jacob lew. there's a vacancy at the cia since general david petraeus stepped down. a source tells cnn a short list includes counterterrorism and homeland security adviser john brennan as well as acting cia drkter, michael morel, the man wearing the red tie in the video. >>> the attorney for one of the two ohio teenagers charged with rape wants a judge to postpone and move his client's trial. the 16-year-old high school football players a
i grew up in israel, was born there. it was an amazing relationship, it started and developed in the last 20 years. and i think that i support him wholeheartedly. >>> coming up at the half hour, more on the man president obama is expected to nominate as his next secretary of defense, from serving in vietnam to a career on capitol hill. a look at the life and career of chuck hagel. >>> president obama has more spots to fill in his cabinet, treasury secretary tim geithner is...
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i have been to israel so many times. you have doves in the community over there, you have moderates, people like perez who is almost godly in his love for peace. you got all kinds of people over there with different views. isn't the american secretary of defense allowed to have a particular view that's in the middle or slightly to the left or does it have to be bibi n netanyahu to have -- >> if you go to tel aviv and look at the debate -- >> it's wide open. >> wide open. here it's much more -- >> if you're not for bibi you're not kerred pro-israeli. >> chuck hagel is not a pacifist. number two, he's a war is last resort rather than war is first resort guy. i think that combined -- israel is obviously an important ally of the united states but unless you're kicking the teeth in of israel's neighbors, then people are basically -- chuck hague sel no different than bob gates, no different than leon pnt, no different than anybody else in the obama administration. >> senator kerrey, you have been in politics all these years. w
i have been to israel so many times. you have doves in the community over there, you have moderates, people like perez who is almost godly in his love for peace. you got all kinds of people over there with different views. isn't the american secretary of defense allowed to have a particular view that's in the middle or slightly to the left or does it have to be bibi n netanyahu to have -- >> if you go to tel aviv and look at the debate -- >> it's wide open. >> wide open. here...
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and the pro-israel lobby. it's a statement of fact in washington, d.c. that the government of israel and the pro-israel lobby is quite powerful and it does intimidate some people on capitol hill. he was too candid to say some of those things? probably. he has his vietnam war history. the thing that puts him out of place in today's republican party -- some of it is personal. remember, you had a group in the senate. john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over
and the pro-israel lobby. it's a statement of fact in washington, d.c. that the government of israel and the pro-israel lobby is quite powerful and it does intimidate some people on capitol hill. he was too candid to say some of those things? probably. he has his vietnam war history. the thing that puts him out of place in today's republican party -- some of it is personal. remember, you had a group in the senate. john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group...
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in israel? >> the members of my congregation of nebraska are all lovers and supporters of the state of israel. and so, just because we are progressive liberal movement doesn't mean that we don't worry about the security and the health of the state of israel. at the same time we are concerned about the middle east. it's not the best neighborhood in the world to live in. i grew up in israel. i was born in israel and therefore i think that chuck hague sell a voice that can actually move an agenda, a whole different conversation that definitely needs to happen with regard to the middle east. >> well, i do appreciate your perspective and great having the nebraska perspective, as well. rabbi, thank you so much for being with us. >> okay. please tell people that there are jews are nebraska. >> all right. and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the sim
in israel? >> the members of my congregation of nebraska are all lovers and supporters of the state of israel. and so, just because we are progressive liberal movement doesn't mean that we don't worry about the security and the health of the state of israel. at the same time we are concerned about the middle east. it's not the best neighborhood in the world to live in. i grew up in israel. i was born in israel and therefore i think that chuck hague sell a voice that can actually move an...
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i have stayed up with israel. senator hagel has voted successively over 12 years for $40 billion worth of assistance for the state of israel. he knows and understands the essential defense relationship which we and israel share in a very difficult part of the world. at the same time he is known for being the kind of person who can ask the difficult questions. not that he prejudges the answers, but he has been known for saying that it is not unpatriotic to raise the questions that will, in fact, be of critical importance to the country for the future. it is unpatriotic to gloss over those. in that way my sense of his support for israel for a two-state solution which provides israel with the opportunity to be both jewish and democratic, the inspirations of the state from the very beginning, those are the kinds of reasons why i believe the senate should support chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. >> thank you, ambassador. didn't mean to interrupt. we'll have to leave it there, but thank you very much. to be
i have stayed up with israel. senator hagel has voted successively over 12 years for $40 billion worth of assistance for the state of israel. he knows and understands the essential defense relationship which we and israel share in a very difficult part of the world. at the same time he is known for being the kind of person who can ask the difficult questions. not that he prejudges the answers, but he has been known for saying that it is not unpatriotic to raise the questions that will, in fact,...
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the problem withb lem with hagel on the issue of israel? >> he has rehe peteedly placed all of the blame on israel in dispute after dispute and dispute and in fact publicly said u.s. policy is dependent on what he calls the israel lobby which is a pejorative term that i think does not reflect the realities of the strong u.s. national security interest in maintaining that alliance. >> that statement that he made was to aaron david miller a former u.s. diplomat. i was going to save this for the panel but maybe we could bring it up now. here is what he said regarding i israel and it was quoted in his new book the much too promisedland. he said people on capitol hill are afraid of the israel lobby and he says well, i'm a u.s. senator. here we go. the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. i'm a united states stor senate not an israeli senator. david miller said what he was talking about there wasn't as dire as many people are making it out to o be. he is opposed to some israeli policies but certainly not andty israeli. this is the gu
the problem withb lem with hagel on the issue of israel? >> he has rehe peteedly placed all of the blame on israel in dispute after dispute and dispute and in fact publicly said u.s. policy is dependent on what he calls the israel lobby which is a pejorative term that i think does not reflect the realities of the strong u.s. national security interest in maintaining that alliance. >> that statement that he made was to aaron david miller a former u.s. diplomat. i was going to save...
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yet this was their reality israel's assault on palestinian militants in gaza israel's anti-missile shield repelled a most attacks on its territory but a strike claimed the lives of more than one hundred sixty palestinians many of them civilians despite harsh condemnation from many in the international community the war and israel's subsequent decision to construct three thousand new settlements effectively slammed the door shut to any prospects of peace go through people power moment use. step aside and let democracy in. get lost get my notorious kuantan of my prison permanently shot. euro zone cuts the cuts and lifts austerity. but the news of austerity only tightened as deep public sector cuts brought thousands of angry demonstrators to the streets of greece spain italy and portugal. the worst economic crisis of a generation has battered the european union's very foundations exacerbating tensions between member states with some regions now desperately wanting out i grew up in a europe that was divided from east to west going to europe it is divided from the south and never at any point
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carol, senator hagel has a long record of support for israel, support for israel's security. i think this is an outstanding choice by president obama because senator hagel is clearly, without any question, one of the most knowledgeable and sperexperienced leaders we on foreign defense policy. he's got a long record of support for the u.s. military, and he's a combat veteran in vietnam. so he's seen war. i think he's going to add weight to the cabinet, and he's going to work well with the president and be a real boost for our foreign and defense policy. >> what do you suppose he meant when he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here? what did he mean by that? >> i don't know what he meant specifically, but i know the remark was made some time ago, and i know that senator hagel has been very consistently supportive of the obligation and interests that the united states has to support israel's security. he has never deviated from that. he's also been -- and i know this because i was involved in iran policy in the bush administration -- a very strong supporter of
carol, senator hagel has a long record of support for israel, support for israel's security. i think this is an outstanding choice by president obama because senator hagel is clearly, without any question, one of the most knowledgeable and sperexperienced leaders we on foreign defense policy. he's got a long record of support for the u.s. military, and he's a combat veteran in vietnam. so he's seen war. i think he's going to add weight to the cabinet, and he's going to work well with the...
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israel. >> he has not been a friend to israel and in my view, united states should stand unshakenably with the side of israel. and he consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies. with respect to the nation of iran he opposed sanctions over and over again. the job of the secretary of defense is to be a serious credible strength and deterrent and unfortunately i think weakness in a secretary of defense invites conflict because bullies don't respect weakness. martha: very strong statements there by the new senator, ted cruz. our next guest we believe probably would agree with that statement based on what he said and that hagel's comments on israel are disturbing. abe foxman head of the anti-defamation league. >> good morning good to be with you. martha: go ahead. >> i think at the outset we should really say that senator hagel is a great american patriot. he is a great public servant but that doesn't necessarily mean he is the best choice to be secretary of state. or secretary of
israel. >> he has not been a friend to israel and in my view, united states should stand unshakenably with the side of israel. and he consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies. with respect to the nation of iran he opposed sanctions over and over again. the job of the secretary of defense is to be a serious credible strength and deterrent and unfortunately i think weakness in a secretary of defense invites conflict because bullies don't respect weakness. martha: very...
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the fact that hagel's record is troubling on the nation of israel, not a friend of israel, and the united states should stand unsthaikenbly with the nation of israel. >> the nomination is almost an intersection between national defense policy and fiscal policy. remember, ashley, automatic spending cuts that are to hit the pentagon at the tune of $500 billion in the next decade were put off by two months in that agreement that the president signed just a few days ago so defense cuts next round already upcoming on capitol hill along with all the other issues that a number of republicans raised with the senator. back to you. ashley: very interesting. rich edson at the white house. thanks. lori: joining us more with the nomination and how that could impact the spending battle ahead is the ceo and former minnesota governor. governor, thank you for joining us, thank you. >> good to be with you. thanks for having me. lori: what are your thoughts on the criticisms for defense secretary? do you think it's warranted? >> well, on the positive side from president obama's perspective, there's a decora
the fact that hagel's record is troubling on the nation of israel, not a friend of israel, and the united states should stand unsthaikenbly with the nation of israel. >> the nomination is almost an intersection between national defense policy and fiscal policy. remember, ashley, automatic spending cuts that are to hit the pentagon at the tune of $500 billion in the next decade were put off by two months in that agreement that the president signed just a few days ago so defense cuts next...
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antagonistic view against israel. and the criticism. as iran becomes increasingly hostile and gains influence in the region, the worst possible message we could send to our friend israel and the rest of our allies in the middle east is chuck hagel. several democratic senators including dick durbin saying that hagel will be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska, a decorated veteran of the vietnam war. a person who has a resume' that includes service on the foreign relations committee as well as the intelligence committee. yes, he's a serious candidate. if the president chooses to name him. >> chief washington correspondent james rosen has details. what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. >> in a taped interview with aaron david miller, the diplomate served six secretaries of state and a commentator on the middle east, said, quote, the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people on capitol hill. he subsequently said he should have spoken of the israel lobby, but hagel ha
antagonistic view against israel. and the criticism. as iran becomes increasingly hostile and gains influence in the region, the worst possible message we could send to our friend israel and the rest of our allies in the middle east is chuck hagel. several democratic senators including dick durbin saying that hagel will be a fine candidate for that job. >> hagel was a republican senator from nebraska, a decorated veteran of the vietnam war. a person who has a resume' that includes service...
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i don't think it's only neo-cons finding that offensive and the remarks about apac and pro-israel calling some of the tactics stupid and can't deny them because they're on tape. i think you will see him try to tune down the remarks and move toward the substance and where i think jim is right and probably not that far from where the american people and maybe a lot of america's jewish community are on a lot of the foreign policy issue. >> how much of this in your reporting or interviewing with sources saying that this is about his opposition to the war in iraq, not revenge or payback, but perhaps, i don't know what would be the word but it seems that seems to be a thorn in the sigh still of some republicans. >> i think especially with republican senators, there's still some resentment. i think you saw some with lindsey graham on sunday about hagel really being the first prominent republican to step off the bus on the iraq war under president bush and say this is headed in the wrong direction and may have been a terrible mistake. even though other people came around to that view and that was
i don't think it's only neo-cons finding that offensive and the remarks about apac and pro-israel calling some of the tactics stupid and can't deny them because they're on tape. i think you will see him try to tune down the remarks and move toward the substance and where i think jim is right and probably not that far from where the american people and maybe a lot of america's jewish community are on a lot of the foreign policy issue. >> how much of this in your reporting or interviewing...
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of israel, in fact, they would question his devotion to anything that would help israel. he, for instance, believes in talking to hamas. he also has come out against iran sanctions by the united states. and so that gets other people very worried about his position. he opposed the surge in afghanistan. and when you get into that issue, the gay issue, so called, about 14 years ago he made some comments about an ambassadorial nomination who as he put it was openly and aggressively gay. now that's, of course, a buzz saw of criticism. so it's not going to be an easy type of nomination certainly as you can imagine. >> so why did the president pick hagel? >> you know, this he have some similar views. he is a maverick, that's true, but he also, i think you have to say, is a moderate realist. he also has some good credentials. he's a vietnam veteran. he heads the prestigious think tank, the atlantic council. the president would believe that they share similar views. the president, of course, is in charge on policy. >> democrats hold a majority in the senate. is it possible hagel w
of israel, in fact, they would question his devotion to anything that would help israel. he, for instance, believes in talking to hamas. he also has come out against iran sanctions by the united states. and so that gets other people very worried about his position. he opposed the surge in afghanistan. and when you get into that issue, the gay issue, so called, about 14 years ago he made some comments about an ambassadorial nomination who as he put it was openly and aggressively gay. now that's,...
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start with israel. as you heard, a number of his opponents, especially on the republican or conservative side think chuck hagel is not a friend of israel and point to his position on iran sanctions. they say because of his position that iran sanctions essentially aren't effective, that that is another point against him. also, from the liberal side, comments about a dozen, maybe 14 years ago, that chuck hagel made about a candidate for an ambassadorial position, where he called him openly and aggressively gay. now, chuck hagel has since apologized for that, but that also raises some haggles among some people on the more liberal side. not going to be a friendly reception up in the senate, however, the white house obviously thinks they can pull it off. >> an interesting confirmation hearing, that's for sure. >> let's talk about secretary of state hillary clinton, whose illness people were mocking honestly. not sure i can use a different word for the concussion and it turned out to be quite serious. is she
start with israel. as you heard, a number of his opponents, especially on the republican or conservative side think chuck hagel is not a friend of israel and point to his position on iran sanctions. they say because of his position that iran sanctions essentially aren't effective, that that is another point against him. also, from the liberal side, comments about a dozen, maybe 14 years ago, that chuck hagel made about a candidate for an ambassadorial position, where he called him openly and...
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i am supportive of israel but i'm not going to zero game between israel and neighbors, but also have vital national security relationships with the united states let's bring in our panel. steve hayes, juan williams and charles krauthammer. steve? >> i think the quote you read is offensive. its clownish view of what people have been arguing both with respect to protecting national security but the threat that iranian poses to the united states of america. i think one of the areas in which hagel has shown himself to be president obama's left, and he has in a variety of different places, is the question of iran. hagel ruled out a military strike would be unreasonable, it would be foolish to do that. something that the obama administration despite fact i think they have taken a rather accommodating and patient approach has never done. the second one he proposed establishing an interest section in tehran at a time we knew, we had increasing evidence of the efforts that the iranians were make to kill u.s. soldiers on the ground in afghanistan and iraq. they were making progress on nuclear
i am supportive of israel but i'm not going to zero game between israel and neighbors, but also have vital national security relationships with the united states let's bring in our panel. steve hayes, juan williams and charles krauthammer. steve? >> i think the quote you read is offensive. its clownish view of what people have been arguing both with respect to protecting national security but the threat that iranian poses to the united states of america. i think one of the areas in which...
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think but don't say about what's going on in israel. >> josh, let's bring you in. the article is fantastic. you lay out the groups that would likely have strong opposition. i want to play what joe scarborough said this morning picking up on the comments that chuck hagel is outside the mainstream. >> this is being said, by the way, of a war hero. >> right. >> of a -- this is important. a war hero with shrapnel around with him. this is a guy. we know him from many different things but runs the atlantic council which is about as mainstream an organization as you will get in foreign policy. anybody out there wants to say that chuck hagel is outside the mainstream of foreign policy, i suggest they turn the mirror around on them. >> so josh, in your article as i said you pointed out some of these organizations who will come out and try to pressure lawmakers. joe says i suggest they turn the mirror back on themselves. are you seeing effective argument that is are last through the nomination process and may certainly put hagel against the ropes? >> i don't know if hagel is
think but don't say about what's going on in israel. >> josh, let's bring you in. the article is fantastic. you lay out the groups that would likely have strong opposition. i want to play what joe scarborough said this morning picking up on the comments that chuck hagel is outside the mainstream. >> this is being said, by the way, of a war hero. >> right. >> of a -- this is important. a war hero with shrapnel around with him. this is a guy. we know him from many...
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and our relationship with israel? there is a lot of very important questions that these senators who are the ones that will be able to ask those questions, will ask of these nominees. jenna: mark, you often brief lawmakers of both parties about a variety of international policies issues. what are some of the top questions that need to be asked of both of these individuals? >> i actually do think it is about iran, iran. after the dream team of hillary, panetta and pell tray you -- petraeus, the senate will have to scrutinize the records of all three of these gentlemen. for senator hagel his record on iran has been puzzling. he refused tos designate the iranian revolutionary guard core as a. obama administration is using to put pressure on iran and the senate will ask some tough questions why he refused to sign a letter to the european union calling for the designation of hezbollah as a terrorist organization when actually john brennan spent the past two years relentlessly trying to convince the e.u. to designate hezbol
and our relationship with israel? there is a lot of very important questions that these senators who are the ones that will be able to ask those questions, will ask of these nominees. jenna: mark, you often brief lawmakers of both parties about a variety of international policies issues. what are some of the top questions that need to be asked of both of these individuals? >> i actually do think it is about iran, iran. after the dream team of hillary, panetta and pell tray you --...
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leveled against president obama saying that he would throw israel under the bus. the american jewish community in commit polls voted 70% for obama. they didn't believe those arguments. there are a variety of former american ambassadors to israel, leading israelis, leading jewish commentators. i myself write for a jewish newspaper at my hometown. there is significant support for chuck hagel and his positions. these are really not fair charges. he has a track record of supporting sanctions on iran, tough diplomacy with iran. >> in addition gay rights groups have also expressed opposition because of the comments he made just a little over a decade ago about american ambassador to luxembourg james hormel who is gay. i know he's apologized for these comments. what are your thoughts about that? there are still a number of gay rights advocates who have serious concerns about chuck hagel. >> this is a watershed moment in our country where the don't ask, don't tell policy has been repealed. chuck hagel has recognized the wisdom of that. came out forcefully with a response
leveled against president obama saying that he would throw israel under the bus. the american jewish community in commit polls voted 70% for obama. they didn't believe those arguments. there are a variety of former american ambassadors to israel, leading israelis, leading jewish commentators. i myself write for a jewish newspaper at my hometown. there is significant support for chuck hagel and his positions. these are really not fair charges. he has a track record of supporting sanctions on...
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stressing again for the viewers, i'm a lifelong supporter of israel. we should be willing to fight to defend israel, but i also believe that senator hagel deserves a fair hearing, not a media lynching. charles: i tell you, you know what? you describedded chuck as someone who is forthright, speaks up, the same to be said about you, and for you to talk about the conservative lynch mob after him, you will hear about that more, i'm sure, as the day goes on. we have to leave it here. >> charles, i say to believe what i believe to be true. charles: that's why we seek out your council. appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you. charles: now, he's the question, guys, are we raising a generation of entitled brats? according to a study, the answer is yes. maybe you didn't need to know that, but the answer is yes. we have a mother of six who responds next. oods' first day o. and his new boss told him twongs -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll wk his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant sp
stressing again for the viewers, i'm a lifelong supporter of israel. we should be willing to fight to defend israel, but i also believe that senator hagel deserves a fair hearing, not a media lynching. charles: i tell you, you know what? you describedded chuck as someone who is forthright, speaks up, the same to be said about you, and for you to talk about the conservative lynch mob after him, you will hear about that more, i'm sure, as the day goes on. we have to leave it here. >>...
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sure he said all the right that support israel and going home stages you have you know an american. of middle eastern politics yeah yeah yeah yeah america bad america but i mean look let's be serious they are and this is that this is a down market like hong kong they say these are our policies are not very. good for jobs and gentleman david. look if you understand i think i think if we're going to do iran's i say they're going there again it's the end of the michael michael let david go let david go go i think. i mean. the united states the west is going to promote its interests if a people elect a government and that government is not a stabilizing effect in the region but is lobbing missiles at its neighbor then they're going to not be supported by the west they're going to be called to account for that and the united nations and any suggestion you know the one panelist says that everything in the in the west is bad and then it also says that we're responsible for everything either we do something and then it's bad or we don't do something it is bad that we didn't do something i m
sure he said all the right that support israel and going home stages you have you know an american. of middle eastern politics yeah yeah yeah yeah america bad america but i mean look let's be serious they are and this is that this is a down market like hong kong they say these are our policies are not very. good for jobs and gentleman david. look if you understand i think i think if we're going to do iran's i say they're going there again it's the end of the michael michael let david go let...
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israel is building a fence along the border with syria. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it's necessary to protect israel. violence continues to escalate in syria and there is growing concern about chemical weapons in that region. >> meanwhile, seaside height, new jersey, residents will be able to spend the night in their house against for the first time since super storm sandy hit. over 100 certificates deeming the home safe to live in were handed out and residents were told they don't have to follow a 10 p.m. curfew anymore. good news for those folks. >>gretchen: by now we've seen that map posted by a new york newspaper pinpointing local gun homeowner addresses. guards and families information appears ton that map. a rockland county sherrif appears about all of that. we were expressing in the commercial break i don't think people understood the domino effect. now inmates are threatening guards. in what way? >> they are saying we know where you live. we know where your family lives. we can retaliate if in fact we choose to. it's a t
israel is building a fence along the border with syria. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it's necessary to protect israel. violence continues to escalate in syria and there is growing concern about chemical weapons in that region. >> meanwhile, seaside height, new jersey, residents will be able to spend the night in their house against for the first time since super storm sandy hit. over 100 certificates deeming the home safe to live in were handed out and residents were told they...
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>> well, two categories here and the thing that wendell was talking about with pro-israel groups is a big deal. the things that he's said, he referred to the jewish lobby, which is a charged phrase when talking about groups in the united states that support israel, they're strong opposition among conservative pro-israel factions in the united states, but there's also among liberals misgiving and they want to hear from hagel, bowing and scraping and carden and others who are pro israel want to hear hagel say, i'm sorry, i shouldn't have. we may be on the verge of that great washington phrase "inartfully phrased", and then the second half, the fact that republicans dislike him more than they dislike some democrats, not just because of the israel stuff, but in 2006 and 2007 when republicans were taking an incredible amount of abuse because of what was going on in the iraq war, hagel changed his position, he had been a supporter of the war, he changed his position, came out against the war and vigorously, he was the most outspoken opponent among the republican party against the iraq surge
>> well, two categories here and the thing that wendell was talking about with pro-israel groups is a big deal. the things that he's said, he referred to the jewish lobby, which is a charged phrase when talking about groups in the united states that support israel, they're strong opposition among conservative pro-israel factions in the united states, but there's also among liberals misgiving and they want to hear from hagel, bowing and scraping and carden and others who are pro israel...
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said you would suggest interaction and iran by the united states because if it threatens to attack israel so by your standard the united states should pursue it but if i were on a roll surely your standard we should pursue those in gaza military militarily well that's well that's a big lie iran has threatened no one iran hasn't attacked another country in two or three centuries in case you don't know your heroes ok you're right it's a good profile and you have i think you should read more and write less gentlemen let's change gears here michael what about drones how does this you know the west looks intensely violent in that part of the world and the legality of it is very unclear talk about drones do you you mean the middle east afghanistan what precisely talk about pakistan. well you know pakistan and i think this is the most troubled and troubling region in the entire world actually for even more so than iran because you have a government in the country in that spill is meant to be allied to the west but of course is playing a game has a nuclear bomb drones are killing innocent people
said you would suggest interaction and iran by the united states because if it threatens to attack israel so by your standard the united states should pursue it but if i were on a roll surely your standard we should pursue those in gaza military militarily well that's well that's a big lie iran has threatened no one iran hasn't attacked another country in two or three centuries in case you don't know your heroes ok you're right it's a good profile and you have i think you should read more and...
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what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when you pay to interview david miller who became an author and commentary, tabling el, they intimidate a lot of people. i favored direct talks with iran in an effort to get the european union. >> he is consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies with respect to the nation of iran he has opposed sanctions over and over again and the job of the secretary of defense is to be a deterrent. i think weakness in the secretary of defense invites conflict because bullies don't respect weakness. >>> a number of gop foreign policy heavy weights a former ambassador lined up in defense. >> senator hagel scored with candidate in 2008. he was auditioning for any then. >> it's a good constitutional questions. he was a nom me somehow brosly unf unfit. >>> they will achuredly remind that and the public he was labeled as an fan troe he sees something to disfall by hagel. >> i know chuck hagel. he has done ex troud nature he rooshg in the senate. somebody who served this country with bava
what has senator hagel said about israel that has so many people upset. when you pay to interview david miller who became an author and commentary, tabling el, they intimidate a lot of people. i favored direct talks with iran in an effort to get the european union. >> he is consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemies with respect to the nation of iran he has opposed sanctions over and over again and the job of the secretary of defense is to be a deterrent. i think weakness...
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hagel angered pro-israel groups with his opposition to unilateral sanction against iran and comments critical to what he called the jewish lobby. >> you have somebody very antagonistic toward the state of israel and the issues we jointly face. and there is no jewish lobby. there is a pro-israel lobby. >> reporter: on "meet the press," the president recently weighed in on the possible choice. >> my number one criteria will be who's going to do the best job in helping to secure america. >> anything disqualify him? >> not that i see. i have served with chuck hagel. i know him. he is a patriot. >> reporter: and even with the fiscal cliff fight behind him, the president faces another looming showdown over the nation's debt ceiling, its borrowing limit. today, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell insisted the tax issue is resolved but demanded spending cuts. >> i wish the president would lead us in this discussion rather than putting himself in a position of having to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table to discuss the single biggest issue confronting our future. >> reporter: al
hagel angered pro-israel groups with his opposition to unilateral sanction against iran and comments critical to what he called the jewish lobby. >> you have somebody very antagonistic toward the state of israel and the issues we jointly face. and there is no jewish lobby. there is a pro-israel lobby. >> reporter: on "meet the press," the president recently weighed in on the possible choice. >> my number one criteria will be who's going to do the best job in helping...
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policien issues like israel and iran. want to check in now with nbc white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, when we talk about what's leading up to this announcement, we're still 90 minutes out from it, but there's a lot of political controversy around chuck hagel. the question is is the president and the white house really up for this bruising type of confirmation? >> reporter: it seems pretty clear that they are. and the president's obviously very confident and has a close relationship with chuck hagel. the two of them traveled to both iraq and afghanistan together when president obama was then senator obama at the time. we got sort of tipped off to some of the talking points that you will likely hear parroted over the next couple weeks from the white house when it comes to chuck hagel. they refer to him as a straight shooter. they say he understands the world stage. also really focus on the fact that he is a combat veteran. recognize the significance of that, thomas. if he is to be nominated as he will be jus
policien issues like israel and iran. want to check in now with nbc white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, when we talk about what's leading up to this announcement, we're still 90 minutes out from it, but there's a lot of political controversy around chuck hagel. the question is is the president and the white house really up for this bruising type of confirmation? >> reporter: it seems pretty clear that they are. and the president's obviously very confident and has a close...
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states because if it threatens to attack israel so by your standard the united states should pursue what i read on rails or earlier your standard we should pursue those in gaza military militarily well that's a well that's a big lie iran has threatened no one iran hasn't attacked another country in two or three centuries. you're right it's a good thing for a while you have a line in yours or a moral right this guy are a gentleman let's change gears here michael what about drones how does this you know the west looks intensely violent in that part of the world and the legality of it is very unclear talk about drones. you mean the middle east of afghanistan precisely talking about pakistan. pakistan and i think this is the most troubled and troubling region in the entire world actually for even more so than iran because you have a government in the country that still is meant to be allied to the west but of course is playing a game has a nuclear bomb drones are killing innocent people as well as the guilty you know there was a time when warriors or each other face to face and it was never
states because if it threatens to attack israel so by your standard the united states should pursue what i read on rails or earlier your standard we should pursue those in gaza military militarily well that's a well that's a big lie iran has threatened no one iran hasn't attacked another country in two or three centuries. you're right it's a good thing for a while you have a line in yours or a moral right this guy are a gentleman let's change gears here michael what about drones how does this...
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and ten he's a cool head saying when the last american is behind to speak when we allow them to go israel america and so when we would all have been the aagot. well maybe you should tell me that he does a lot about the wall with that without actually having been there because i have and i can tell you as much as i think that israel palestine i'm not sure if they'll be a solution but i wish they could be one but the idea that the israeli navy is blockading and murdering people well let me do what you want i'll just say that those that use of those approaches everything really. want any aggression going on why it's you that was not comes down to you support reading communities in the west bank on a daily basis do you support institutionalized torture you support institutional as i realize and i'm not using. anything at all the great that important is that when you're going home stages you have you know an american. of middle eastern politics yeah yeah yeah yeah america bad america but i mean look let's be serious they are and this is that this is a down market like hong kong they say these
and ten he's a cool head saying when the last american is behind to speak when we allow them to go israel america and so when we would all have been the aagot. well maybe you should tell me that he does a lot about the wall with that without actually having been there because i have and i can tell you as much as i think that israel palestine i'm not sure if they'll be a solution but i wish they could be one but the idea that the israeli navy is blockading and murdering people well let me do...